I did it. I caved and bought a trench. after all the stir I spit about not thinking it was appropriate outerwear, I found a really cute satin-y purple version at target for a very affordable $40. it's perfect for l.a. fall weather and really slims the silhouette. plus, its got the great collar I can pop. so, to follow the previous post, I highly recommend trying the trench on for size.